Brooks Saddles Flyer Bicycle Saddle (Men's, Black Steel Rails, Honey) Product Description:
- Classically Sprung Saddle
- Extra Suspension from Two Rear Springs
- Available with Tubular Steel or Hand Hammered Copper Rivets
- Ideal for Touring or Trekking
- Wider Seat
Product Description
Brooks Saddles Flyer is a classically sprung saddle for long distance trekking and touring. It is directly descending from the B66 Champion, first featured in the 1927 catalogue. Sharing the same leather tops of the B17 models, they combine the comfort of these popular models with the extra suspension granted by two rear springs. The honey leather seat is available with tubular steel rivets or with hand hammered copper rivets under the name of Flyer Special. This saddle weighs 850 grams.
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23 of 23 people found the following review helpful.
Great saddle for Touring and longer Commuting
By Roger L. Bombardier Jr.
I Purchased a Brooks Champion Flyer saddle (Black) mid-May 2010.I've read all the reviews I could get my hands on regarding Brooks saddles, and felt it was something I wanted to try. You have a LARGE contingent of those who swear by them with religious furor and a much smaller contingent who are disgusted that theirs never broke in and gave up.Thus I felt it was a bit of a gamble. So far I am guardedly pleased. I have about 200 miles on the saddle so far, it appears to be breaking in quite nicely. One gent told me that his brooks to 1000 miles to break in but that it was comfortable after that. Brooks says that their saddles typically take about 300 Kilometers to break in. I'm a 43 year-old male 5' 9" 215lbs.I've been a Specialized brand loyalist for most of the last decade, and in many respects I still am, I still recommend Specialized Milano type especially for men overwhelmingly. Because of out of box comfort for the price, perhaps a couple K on the Brooks will change that but not yet.When I first opened the box and felt of the saddle I was worried I'd made a mistake, it feels way too hard to be comfortable when you handle it. I was determined to try so I installed it and found it considerably more comfortable than it looked but not as comfortable as some of the specialized saddles I've used right away.I made the smart move of packing the larger Allen wrenches in my bike bag think I'd have to make quite a few adjustments to the Brooks and I was correct. In the past with other saddles, I'd moved it a half inch here, a quarter-inch there, etc. I was usually happy with 2 or 3 adjustments. I've made at least 6 adjustments to the Brooks to slowly bring it into where I was happy with the ride, not pitching myself too far forward, etc. The adjustments tend to be more frequent and smaller. The last adjustment I made was to move it 1/8 of an inch forward and yes I really could feel a difference.The saddle seems to disappear under me when I ride it and I rarely notice or think about it on that bike, I take this as a good thing and that I am on the right track.I was not prepared for the slippery factor, the saddle is a bit slippery due to the shiny leather, if you're used to synthetic saddles with the grippy fabric on them this will surprise you. I'm not sure the slippery tendency is good for off-road riders, they may opt to stay away from brooks for this reason, or at least try someone else's Brooks before you buy. Speaking for myself, I'm keeping my specialized saddle on the mountain bike. This is not a factor for me on the road bike as I'm using it purely on the road bike for long commutes and some touring.I'm following Brooks care instructions to the letter, if you buy online be sure to order some Brooks "Proof hide" I forgot to do this and now there is a shortage of the stuff here in town. Luckily a local shop called "Old Spokes Home" put some proof hide on there for me, no charge. That will cover me until I can buy my own tin.I have noticed some spring squeak on my flyer but this was only for a brief period after a rain. Seems to be gone now, don't know if it will return. The springy feel is not very noticeable unless you pogo up and down deliberately. I feel the springs do take some of the bumps out.I rode up beside a gent on a surley LHT during my commute one day who had the same Brooks flyer only in brown, he's had his for a lot longer and says "I love it".So after 200 miles, I'm happy and will probably stick with it. It seems to be getting increasingly comfortable. I feel I can recommend this saddle to the dedicated male touring or longer distance commuting cyclist. (my commute is 20 miles each way). I cannot recommend this saddle to cyclists who only rides the occasional weekend ride, or the off-road cyclist. I suggest that these folks look to Specialized Milano. Women should seek out saddle reviews written by women IMHO.-Roger
14 of 14 people found the following review helpful.
Best saddle ever...period
By M. Rubin
I have a Brooks Champion Flyer that I've been riding for a couple of years on a cyclocross frame. Got a great deal on a lugged steel road frame and put on a Brooks B17 to save a little weight. The B17 is lighter and prettier (especially the one with copper rivets) but I decided to put on the Champion Flyer to see how it felt on the road bike. OMG! What a difference! The Champion Flyer turned the road bike into a limo. Absorbs all the little bumps and greatly softens the big ones. It's way more comfortable than the B17 and worth the extra 10 ozs, particularly if you have a somewhat upright riding position.
13 of 13 people found the following review helpful.
Brooks Champion Flyer pros and cons
By P. A. Childrey
The Brooks Champion Flyer is my fourth Brooks bicycle saddle. My first lasted twenty years. I bought the Champion Flyer for a hardtail mountain bike that I have been using as my around-town, utility bike.Pros: The saddle is perfectly designed, constructed, and finished. It is absolute art, even in the standard-rivet model. The springs are firm, even for me at 220 lbs, so riding efficiency is not diminished. The springs do absorb both small vibrations and the occasional bigger impact. The result is that you feel less fatigued after a longer (10+ mile) ride than you would without the springs.The saddle fits standard bicycle rails.Brooks saddles, once broken-in, are custom-fit comfortable, and will never disappoint you.The saddle comes with a spanner wrench for tightening. This becomes more important after break-in, to keep the leather taut.Cons: This saddle doesn't come with a tin of the proofhide saddle dressing.
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